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Evento para Junio del 2008 - Enfoque x TV va estar ofreciendo la nueva línea de programación exclusiva de enfoque x extra, en donde se incluirá algunas secciones nueva, entrevistas, reportajes, noticias y mucho más para el deleite de todos ustedes. El moderador Luiseppi Quiñones y los panelistas Wilson Sosa y José Martínez investigadores de la casuística ovnis y temas afines estarán discutiendo y analizando de forma seria e objetiva los temas que se estarán presentando en la programación de Enfoque x Extra.
También estaremos incorporando nuevos integrantes que cubrirán reportajes y secciones como lo son los amigos Luz María, Benny y Alex, cuales estarán trabajando con nosotros mano a mano para seguir llevándole un trabajo de calidad. También Investigadores sumamente de larga experiencias en estos y otros temas en Puerto Rico, nos estarán apoyando como los es el editor Carlos Torres de la revista Ovnis al Día, y el reconocido investigador científico de los fenómenos ovnis y temas afines Willie Duran Urbina. Deseo informarle y darle la gran noticia que sigue creciendo nuestra familia para así seguir llevándole de forma seria e objetiva todos estos temas de interés.
Por otro lado seguimos trabajando para llevarle otros proyectos relacionado a estos asunto de los fenómenos ovnis y paranormales, que iremos presentándoles a lo largo del tiempo. Para comentarios o sugerencias o si usted quiere participar en los programa, comuníquese a través del correo electrónico, puede hacerlo a la siguiente dirección electrónica: enfoquextv@prtc.net Le pido que se mantenga atento a nuestro portal para más detalles.
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José A. Martínez E. Foro Ufologia Experimental- Nuevo
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Source: Diario Clarin (Argentina)
Date: 05.14.08
STATEMENTS MADE BY AN ARGENTINEAN JESUIT IN THE VATICAN
"It is possible to believe in God and aliens"
ROME - EFE.
Argentinean Jesuit Jose Gabriel Funes, director of the Vatican Astronomical Observatory, stated that it is possible to believe in God and in aliens. "The existence of other worlds and other life forms, some even more evolved than our own, can be admitted without questioning our faith in creation, in incarnation and redemption. It is possible to believe in both God and in aliens," said Funes, 45, in an interview with the Vatican's "L'Osservatore Romano".
The Argentinean said that the "Big Bang" theory is the one that best explains the origin of the world, to dte: "As an astronomer, I still believe that God is the creator of the universe and that we are not the product of chance, but the children of a loving father, who has a project of love in store for us."
Funes added that the universe is made up of 100 billion galaxies, each consisting of 100 billion stars and that many or nearly all of them may have planets.
"How can we reject [the possibility] that life may have developed elsewhere as well?" asks the Jesuit, who added: "Much like the multiplicity of creatures on Earth, there could be other beings, intelligent ones, created by God. This does not contradict our faith, because we cannot impose a limit on God's freedom to create." Paraphrasing St. Francis, the religious noted that aliens could also be referred to as our "brothers."
(translation (c) 2008, S. Corrales, IHU. Special thanks to Guillermo Gimenez, Planeta UFO)
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INEXPLICATA
The Journal of Hispanic Ufology
May 8, 2008
Mexico: An Alleged Flying Humanoid (2008)
By Ana Luisa Cid
Lic. Daniel Sanchez Rosales, a resident of Mexico City, recorded an unidentified flying object that he describes as having humanoid characteristics.
The video was taken on February 28 of this year in the Moctezuma district, no far from Mexico City International Airport, at 6:50 a.m.
It should be mentioned that the first one to see it was his nephew Quique (Erik) as left home toward his middle school. It was then that he woke his uncle Daniel and they observed the phenomenon through binoculars, at first. During this observation, the witnesses described it as "a flying humanoid" resembling an astronaut. They claimed that it was facing them and it seemed to survey its surroundings.
As part of this investigation, I visited the household and interviewed the witnesses. Both seemed like honest people to me, and are not looking for either fame or fortune, merely a chance to share their experience. Daniel Sanchez Rosales,36, is a graduate of the UNAM School of Law.
Research
After reviewing the video with filters, my conclusion is that it is authentic, but it is still necessary to determine the nature of what was recorded.
Objectively, we are aware that this could have an explanation: perhaps a balloon, but there are three aspects that draw our attention:
1. The recording has a 12-minute duation, and if we add to this the observation time through binoculars, the sighting was around 15 minutes, an uncommon period of time when we deal with balloons, as these are carried away by the wind, and it is hard to see them for an extended period of time.
2. At a given point in the video, the object or alleged humanoid makes descending movements, then remains static for a while and subsequently rises again. This ascending and descending isn't quite so common with balloon.
3. At two moments during the recording, the dogs' reaction can be heard. The appear to be keening or expressing fear. This does not occur when balloons are involved, unless it is a huge coincidence (the witness has 2 Labrador Retrievers).
The object remains close to an air corridor. The background information here is that researcher Alfonso Salazar had reported the presence of UFOs near MCIA.
Fragments of the video and the interview
Broadcasting
This material was presented as an exclusive for Mexican television in Televisa's "De Buenas a la 1" broadcast, hosted by Alfredo Adame (May 5, 2008)
(Translation (c) 2008. Scott Corrales, Institute of Hispanic Ufology (IHU). Special thanks to Ana Luisa Cid)
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INEXPLICATA - The Journal of Hispanic Ufology - May 7, 2008
Mexico: Reports from Airliner Personnel
Ana Luisa Cid write: Personnel from the Mexico City International Airport (MCIA) saw an airliner flying close to a UFO.
The event occurred on April 27 2008 at 15:43 hours, when the Aladia Boeing 757-200 commenced rising over the Mexican capital after taking off from the airport in question.
According to calculations, the UFO was 38 meters long (estimating that it was half the length of the Boeing 757's fuselage). They added that the object was saucer-shaped, white and remained static at an elevation of 5000 meters.
Weather conditions: clear and sunny. Information on this case was received from researcher Alfonso Salazar.
(Translation (c) 2008, S. Corrales, IHU. Special thanks to Ana Luisa Cid)
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UFO AUTHOR/RESEARCHER MARC DAVENPORT DIES
Marc Davenport made the transition from this life to the next on Sunday,
April 20. Marc was a dedicated seeker of the truth who believed that we all
had a right to know. He fought for human rights, liberty, justice, and the
preservation of our planet. He was the author of Dear Mr. President: 100
Earth-Saving Letters and Visitors From Time: The Secret of the UFOs.
Marc was married to Leah Ann Haley.
Marc was deeply grateful for all of his friends and supporters. His wishes
were that instead of a formal service to mourn his death those who loved him
would hold private gatherings to celebrate his life.
The family requests that donations in memory of Marc Davenport be made to
Covenant Hospice; 5907 Berryhill Road; Milton, FL 32570 or to the
International UFO Museum and Research Center; 114 N Main Street; Roswell, NM
88203.
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Inexplicata
The Journal of Hispanic Ufology
May 5, 2008
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Source: Correo de Piura (newspaper)
Date: May 3, 2008
UFOs Over Piura
Some residents of Piura believe that we are not the only ones in the universe, but sightings of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) are no longer strange. A Piuran attorney was terrified when he felt the phenomenon’s murmurs.
PIURA – Those who delight in speaking of aliens may calmly be considered insane. It has even been observed that people have forged alleged proof in an effort to achieve notoriety, or were also part of a psychosocial phenomenon. However, this phenomenon is rampaging in our city. On April 19, a researcher from Proyecto UFO managed to pick upn an object at 11 p.m. , flashing orange and silver lights in the desert between Piura and Paita. Since 1999, the Proyecto, formed by four good friends, decided to look into these sightings. They overcame their fear of the unknown and always organize vigils for sightings. They are convinced of an alien presence during the last Aerosport Festival organized by the Peruvian Air Force (FAP). There are hundreds of videos circulating on YouTube, where we find a news report from the defunct “Hechos” publication, reporting a sighting at the Los Cocos urbanization on February 8, 1994. Is there any truth to all this? Now, attorney Luis Vazquez Coronel offers us an astonishing story, “Cerro Pilan, a UFO highway”. Terrifying.. Vazquez Coronel, who also teaches English at a renowned school, was nearly indifferent to the UFO phenomenon. When he heard Anthony Choy, former head of the Oficina de Investigacion de Fenomenons Aeroanormales (OIFA), a dependency of the FAP itself, discuss sightings in Chulucanas, he was overcome by curiosity.
To date, Vazquez Coronel has made 16 trips and is terrified by each experience. He neither makes conjectures nor indulges in guesswork – he only tells the truth as he knows it. His close encounter of the first kind occurred in July 2007. He discusses that hapless trip in his book: in the company of two friends from Piura and two other locals, he came across a weird light in the village of Palo Blanco.
“A star that made an abnormal movement,” as he describes it. Fear gripped their bodies, because this light was chasing them. Beating naysayers to the punch, Vazquez Coronel writes: “They say that these red and turquoise lights are seen around the mines, and it can’t be true, because [they] follow a definite trajectory.”
He had two unusual experiences in subsequent trips. He was able to see a vessel irradiating “luminous triangles” in the blink of an eye over Cerro Pilan. “It was shaped like a hanging parachute,” he explains. All of this is recorded in photo and video formats. The adventurers ascended the summit of Cerro Horquetudo in 10 minutes and also noted the presence of lights. Hearing echoes [in the darkness] froze their blood colder than the North Pole. It is for this reason, they say, the very few dare the ascent, out of a fear that the peak will bewitch them. “People would opine that this is insane,” we argue, and he replies: “People feel very comfortable with reality, with what they know.” Some prophets claim that the increase in sightings heralds something, but Vazquez Coronel’s testimony concludes by saying that the only thing palpable is fear.
Further information: UFO sightings follow a route that begins in Chulucanas, passes over the treeline toward Piura, reaches the Alas Peruanas Universty, the Bolognesi Bridge, flies over Santisimo Sacramento parish and ends at Cerro Azul.
(Translation (c) 2008, S. Corrales, Institute of Hispanic Ufology (IHU). Special thanks to Alex Sender)
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Date: 05.02.08
Argentina: Chupacabras Changes Diet
A dog was found dead with a puncture mark in its throat and completely drained of blood in the Argentinean city of Rosario. No signs of a struggle were evident, nor were bloodstains found on the ground. The animal shared a terrace with another dog that did not suffer any violence whatsoever.
This incident likely took place in the early morning hours of Thursday. Daniel Angel R., a resident of the Echesortu district of Rosario, heard some barking from the terrace on which he kept his dogs, but paid no attention to it, since there was nothing unusual about the situation.
According to information provided by the local newspaper "La Capital", the owner of the property went up to the terrace areound noon, finding one of his dogs dead under a grill. Upon examining the body, Daniel R. did not find any other signs of violence beyond a deep, clean wound in the neck area which allowed him to see the animal's bones. No signs of a struggle were evident in the area, not even a drop of blood on the ground.
The frightened man took the carcass to the city's 6th Sheriff's Office, where he filed the corresponding police report. The dog's lifeless body was taken to the Instituto Medico Legal, where an autopsy shall be performed in order to establish the cause of death.
(Translation (c) 2008, Scott Corrales, IHU. Special thanks to Leopoldo Zambrano, Fundacion Cosmos A.C.)
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INEXPLICATA
The Journal of Hispanic Ufology
May 5, 2008
The Controversial Malargue UFO (Argentina)
By Luis Burgos (FAO)
The Event
Felix Fernandez, Omar Gonzalez and Virgilio Moreno, employees of the Dirección Provincial de Vialidad, were returning from Paraje La Junta to the city of Malargue in southern Mendoza province after working on repairing some machinery. As the trip elapsed, Fernandez took pictures of the landscape with his cellphone (of which no information has been hitherto available). At 18:50 hours, a strange discoidal flying object makes an appearance, maneuvering in front of the sun and the witnesses, and flying over the zone for 15 minutes until pausing for a moment and then vanishing from sight toward the west in the El Chacal zone. This allowed for several photos to be taken of the object. Fernandez told his own story on Radio 1 Alvear and the story reached the media. The photo analyses performed by Jorge Luis Figueiras, through various filters, show the typical solid “saucer shape” with interesting contours and edges, similar to photos taken with cellphones from El Chocon and Santiago del Estero, both in 2008.
The Main Witness
This, then, is the narrative of the case and of the analyses performed by our specialist, Jorge Luis Figueiras, using the only photograph that was circulated in the media. After a few days, I received an e-mail from the main protagonist of the event. Mr. Felix Fabian Fernandez, 41, expressing his TOTAL LACK OF COMMERCIAL INTEREST in the photo, fully placing it at the disposal of this author, and therefore, of the FAO, to perform any analyses to the required material, consisting of a series of images taken that afternoon, and making himself available for any questions or consultations that we may deem pertinent. As days passed, we exchanged several phone calls, text messages and e-mails. We can extract from them the following evaluative concepts from the eyewitness’s account:
The camera: It was not a cellphone, as the media claimed, but a digital camera with a 1 Megapixel lens, Mp4 and video capability. The photos have a 640 x 480 resolution.
The photos: SEVEN photos were taken of the object, not just one (the photo that appeared in the media).
The time: According to Felix, between 2-4 minutes elapsed between each photo. The 15-minute duration of the observation took place on a poorly kept road, covered in dirt and rip-rap, and along a detour. This allows us to deduce that the distance covered by the pickup truck was NOT VERY LONG, compared with 15 minutes driving along a normal road. Hence the nearly permanent presence in the same landscape. We must add to this the time taken to get out of the vehicle to take better photos.
The UFO: The disk-shaped object remained at a constant altitude and made gyroscopic movements, balancing itself slightly throughout the observation and even as it sped away...
The geography: While this is an open area, the facilities of the Pierre Auger Observatory are nearby, well known for its capture of cosmic rays. In other words, the object flew over this location.
The photographic variables:
If the object is far away – it is undefined.
If the object is near – it is too real.
If the object is out of focus or blurry – it is a spot, a bird or a bug.
If it is in front of the Sun or near it – it is a reflection.
If there are eyewitnesses – then it must be a hoax, etc., etc.
Perhaps in order to counteract this, and also as a test, we would have to resort to the AIRPLANE EFFECT: in other words, begin taking photos of distant aircraft, as far as possible, and if they are near the sun, better yet. 80% of the photos would be DISQUALIFIED as such. They would be merely distant, elongated forms, poorly lit, with odd contours, etc. and no matter how hard the witness tried to prove that he saw and photographed a plane, [this would be rejected] simply because the photo presented as proof WOULD NOT SUPPORT IT!!!
The analyses: Having employed all of the filters [the object] indeed presents contours, edges and even a reflection of its own image in one of the photos, but when all of the photos are superimposed, the object’s location is almost the same. It seems to be fixed in all photos between the Sun and the camera. Untrustworthy? Obviously. Impossible? Not at all. With regard to the low resolution of cellular or low quality cameras, which present “dark central spots” when aimed at the Sun (not in all cases) and sometimes strange oval objects, this is not the case. Here we have a classic “two plates joined at the edges” shape, not an oval or ovoid. It is obvious that it would be henceforth necessary for naysayers to “prove the hoax”, as there is no confusion here. It’s either a UFO or a hoax, and in the case of the latter, we would be speaking in terms of RETOUCHING a dark spot produced in the photos.
Conclusions
In the light of all this new information and the analyses performed, the case shall without question remain polemical. There will be those who will rely on the eyewitness version of the events, those who will call it into question and those who will dismiss it as a hoax, where we would now face a photographic montage as well as a “confabulation” by three witnesses, employees of a state company. In other words, one person hoaxing the images and two more corroborating the story. This is hard to believe, but not impossible, logically. Let us bear in mind that this isn’t a mere photo or “phantom” photo --- it is a sighting “backed by photo evidence”, to judge by the proof presented.
Question: And if the three witnesses hadn’t presented photos and gone to the media with their story, would this have made the case more credible? Why bother with photos, if the press reports everything or nearly everything, especially from rural residents? We therefore present all of the analyses performed on the photos. Let everyone draw their own conclusions: coincidences, reflections, hoaxes, questions, certainty, new discoveries, etc. Everything is possible in the field of ufology – just ask the FOTOCAT project!
(Translation (c) 2008, Scott Corrales, Institute of Hispanic Ufology)
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Inexplicata
The Journal of Hispanic Ufology
May 2, 2008
Puerto Rico: Couple Photographs UFO over Naranjito
Source: Willie Durand Urbina, Puerto Rican Experimental Research Group
Sighting Date: March 17, 2008,
Sighting Time: 9:56 p.m.
Photos taken with a Fuji Film Finepix AB20 8.3 Megapixels – 4x Optical Zoom.
Technical personnel from the PRRG performed an optical and scientific analysis employing Adobe Photoshop 6.0 on three photos depicting an unidentified flying object with a solid shape that made peculiar and typical movements. These movements created a plasma vortex, which is nothing more than the accumulation of energy made up of radiation and heat.
According to the witnesses, the object emitted a very potent and intermittent light. This indicates that high levels of radiation took place in its surroundings, interacting by colliding between the Earth’s magnetic field and the magnetic force lines of hydrogen and oxygen in the planet’s atmosphere, causing it to glow in various colors and generating a significant amount of positive ions.
Witness Report: It all happened on Friday, March 17, 2008 at 9:56 p.m. when my husband and I looked out on a clear, unclouded night. What we saw that evening was to the north of our point of view, as it was possible to see a mountainous area in the background which gave us a more precise point of reference for the [object’s] position with regard to our own. My husband saw a brilliant light through the window, flashing in various colors and remaining static in the sky. He then summoned me to witness the event, and we were both able to clearly see the blinking light.”
Among the characteristics of a UFO sighting, we know that these [objects] have the capability or property of transforming themselves into energy, adopting a different shape. Their colors are more intense. We can interpret that at that time they issue a maximum quantity of radiation – microwaves, x-rays, magnetism and others beyond our scientific knowledge.
We must bear in mind that these vehicles or craft violate all physical laws known to mankind when they appear in our reality. To my understanding, these craft are governed by a dimensional space-time principle, which has hitherto been the only logical explanation that accounts for their presence in our 3-D reality.
We know from experience that this location is rich in UFO events (flaps) and the residents of this town [Naranjito] mostly discuss their own encounter experiences with unidentified flying objects. We hope to be able to share with you other incidents that may occur at this location.
Puerto Rico is currently undergoing a UFO flap. There is a considerable amount of information reaching us; some of it cannot be published due to the sensitive nature of the subject.
We would like to thank our technical staff for their work and analytical work in the interpretation of this enigma, which has always appeared to elude our understanding.
Willie Durand Urbina - Director
(Translation (c) 2008, S. Corrales, IHU. Special thanks to Jose A. Martinez, ARGUS-PR and Willie Durand Urbina)
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"All UFO Secrets Must Be Disclosed"
In an unprecedented exclusive interview to A. J. Gevaerd, editor of the Brazilian UFO Magazine, one the highest ranking and most distinguished officials of the Brazilian Air Force, Brigadier José Carlos Pereira, recognized that "it is time to end the UFO secrecy".
The part one of the long interview has just been published in the edition # 141, April, of the Brazilian UFO Magazine. If you don't see the cover of it below, hit http://www.ufo.com.br/public/pereira/UFO-141.jpg. Photos of Brigadier Pereira can be also found in the same folder.
This interview was conducted with the participation of Fernando de Aragao Ramalho and Roberto Affonso Beck, special consultants to Brazilian UFO Magazine. The translation to English was conducted by Eduardo Rado, From the Brazilian UFO Magazine Team.
Introduction
During the first ever official meeting between members of the Brazilian Committee of Ufologists (CBU) and military of the Brazilian Air Force held on May 20th 2005, at the Brazilian Airspace Defense Command (Comdabra) headquarters, Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira, a former commander of the body from 1999 to 2001, has shown a special interest in the subject. At the end of the meeting, he escorted the ufologists himself to the exit door of the building and after receiving some issues of Brazilian UFO Magazine declared: “I thank you for the gift, but I should say that I always buy the magazine at Brasilia newsstands”. In an informal way and with no reservation Pereira confirmed his high interest and level of information regarding UFO matters.
Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira is undeniably regarded by Brazilian ufologists as a high-rank official who has material information on the existence and concreteness of UFOs, not to mention their unquestionable extraterrestrial origin. Until little time ago he did not bother to hide what military new on the issue. Therefore, as part of the second phase of the Brazilian campaign UFOs: Liberdade de Informação Já [UFOs: Freedom of Information Now], the Brazilian Committee of Ufologists (CBU) decided to meet him for an interview with no guarantees that he would accept the invitation.
To our great surprise, however, Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira accepted the invitation and granted Brazilian UFO Magazine with an exclusive interview in which he reports the truth of UFO phenomena in Brazil. The meeting took place on March 8th, in Brasilia, and was a unique opportunity for Brazilian ufologists to become aware of Pereira's opinions on the issue. More than that, it was an opportunity for all to know details on his thinking about different aspects of UFO phenomenon, namely topics related to the Air Force, national security, and responses of Brazilian military surrounding this subject
“I'll be readily available to ufologists of Brazilian UFO Magazine and it will be a great pleasure to meet them at any time”, said Pereira when accepting the invitation. “I always respected the work of this magazine and I wish to contribute to the movement they are leading, aiming the freedom of UFO information in Brazil”. Days before the date of the interview was set a significant impact was expected after its publication. It would be something similar to another historical occasion for Brazilian Ufology when Brazilian UFO Magazine was also directly involved: the interview with Colonel Uyrangê Hollanda, in 1997.
The Need for Freedom of Information
For our publication this would be an opportunity for not only know the ideas of one of the most brilliant military in the country but also to bring him to join the movement UFOs: Liberdade de Informação Já, which was fully achieved. “It's time to disclose all secrets on this subject in Brazil, be them from any air bases, and I'll will work for this to happen”, he declares. During an interview with more than a hundred questions the military showed the seriousness with which he sees the subject and the research. He entrusted his interviewers – this editor and special consultants for Brazilian UFO Magazine Roberto Affonso Beck and Fernando de Aragao Ramalho – with important information.
Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira openly spoke on nearly all subjects approached not refraining from answering any questions to him presented. “I intend to talk to my uniform colleagues and get informed on the exact environment in military headquarters and air bases in order to bring the support of some of them to your work”, he offered even before being asked to do so. Throughout the questioning, Pereira talked about security in Brazilian air space, violations the nation suffered from unidentified flying objects, the so called Official UFO Night in Brazil, Operação Prato [Operation Saucer] and its commander, and even described some UFO events unknown to us.
“Colonel Uyrangê Hollanda, commander of Operação Prato [Operation Saucer], was a serious and objective man, diligent and respected by all”, Pereira says, confirming what Brazilian ufologists always knew but had no means to assure – that indeed Operação Prato [Operation Saucer] resulted in more than 2.000 pages of documents besides the already known 500 pictures and 16 hours of footage. Regarding Caso Varginha, however, he says to know nothing but what was revealed by Brazilian UFO Magazine and the press. He seemed to be sincere because such case belongs to a different military sector, the Army.
Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira was born in Salvador (BA) and joined the Brazilian Air Force (FAB) in March 1958, retiring in July 2005 after occupying the main positions in the Air Force hierarchy including the highest rank of all. He was graduated in December 1963 and little by little became one of the best specialists for space policies and strategies in Brazil. Pereira was also a jet pilot as well as a pilot for transports, a special air operations and a military parachutist.
Member of Brazilian Military Elite
Pereira was an operations officer and a commander of the Unit for Jet Training, a commander of air bases and official of the superior military command in operations and personnel sectors. He had a distinguished performance at the military intelligence being an official at Brazilian Presidency cabinet and an official for intelligence at the Inter-American Defense Board, in Washington. Pereira was also chief of logistics and mobilization of the superior command of Brazilian Armed Forces, commander of the Brazilian Air Force Academy (AFA) and chief of the General Command of Air Operations.
Over the last 10 years, Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira was also a commander of operations for the Brazilian Air Force (FAB) being responsible for 13 generals and a total number of 27 thousand subordinates. From 1999 to 2001, he was a general commander for Air Operations and for the Brazilian Airspace Defense Command (Comdabra), a body that was already called “Brazilian Area 51”. As we can see, it is no overestimate to say that during some time Pereira was the guardian of the key to the safe where Brazilian UFO secrets have been kept. On March 27th 2006, already retired, this Brigadier took office at the presidency of the Brazilian Airport Infrastructure Agency (Infraero), by appointment of Minister Nelson Jobim.
Brazilian ufologists consider that Pereira's statements will have a significant impact on the campaign UFOs: Liberdade de Informação Já [UFOs: Freedom of Information Now]. Never before a military of that rank spoke so freely about UFOs. Very few from other countries came so close to repeat the same initiative. This encouraged Brazilian UFO Magazine to try a contact with military of the same level in the Navy and in the Army in order to look for the support Brazilian ufologists need to fulfill their goals. Step by step we follow our path which someday will lead us to the freedom of UFO information in Brazil. Uyrangê Hollanda gave his contribution and now Jose Carlos Pereira joins his efforts.
See below the highlights of the interview given to Brazilian UFO Magazine
UFO – Brigadier, you have been the one in military who speaks more about UFOs in the media. You have given several interviews always in a very open and natural manner. What makes you act like this?
Pereira – I consider that as a matter of personal belief. I believe there should be no subject to be kept closed to humankind. It might look flamboyant and bizarre, but this subject must always be checked and investigated. Galileo, Copernicus, and so many other scientists must have known that. So I believe no human being or institution has the right to keep doors closed to the discussion of any matters, be it scientific, political, social or religious. Not even to Ufology, which I consider to be within the scientific field. This is a personal point of view that I sustain till these days.
UFO – It has been said that you keep the key to the safe where UFO secrets are kept, including documents, pictures and footages made in different circumstances by military in duty in different bases – some in missions like Operação Prato [Operation Saucer], some by accident. What could these secrets reveal?
Pereira – Look, I'm a man devoted to science, a man with a scientific mind. If you present the idea that extraterrestrials are here, that they are visiting and investigating us, that they are doing things that we cannot understand what they are, then your idea goes against scientific reasoning. Because, as far as we know, our Solar System has presented no indication for the existence of life in another planet except Earth.
UFO – And what if we consider civilizations with a much more advanced technology compared to ours?
Pereira – OK, look, I'm analyzing with the knowledge we have today in our planet, with the knowledge our current stage of science has achieved. This is the caveat to be consider. So, if we consider only this knowledge, I reject every possibility of anyone coming from outer space to Earth. And it gets more complex if we go further because Alpha Centauri does not seem to be a planetary system. Let's move then to the portion of the Universe astronomers call “inhabitable zone”, which seems to be many light years from Earth.
UFO – Is the understanding of this situation beyond our control?
Pereira – The starting point is the technology we have today to understand the universe. I wouldn't say no one might have advanced a million years ahead somewhere else. On the other hand, the technology we have today on Earth fully dismisses the possibility of someone from out of the solar system to arrive here. I humbly insist that our knowledge must still be insignificant to comprehend all of this. We can see by what happened over the last hundred years with discoveries ranging from penicillin to the airplane.
UFO – Spacecraft coming to Earth certainly do not use the same propulsion technology we used to explore the Moon, Mars or Venus. Do you think this should be openly discussed by civil society?
Pereira – No, they probably don't use rocket engines like our spacecraft sent to space. My opinion on Ufology is that it must approach scientific fields in the near future, such as astronomy, astrophysics, and astronautics in order to form a more consistent scientific group. I don't refuse the idea of philosophy entering this range of subjects, with its modern concepts aiming to quickly address the issues we couldn't solve to date: who we are, where we came from, and where are we going to... Since Aristotle we make the same questions and no one answers. Ufology in combination with these other subjects might be a way to these answers.
UFO – Your open and frank position matches those of a few other Brazilian military. However, the same is confronted by some sectors within the military who prefer UFO matters to be kept out of public discussion. Do you think it is time to break such resistance?
Pereira – Look, I believe the mere opening of secret files to be delivered to the press and the public in general is something that can be done tomorrow morning without any problem. But I think this is not enough, not sufficient. Ufologists might even get disappointed when they see those files because I feel they expect more concrete evidence and maybe they won't find what they long for in those folders. However, I think that an official example of opening UFO archives – especially when this attitude comes from the military – comes to favor and empower other people that fear to discuss the issue. I think that from the moment the government opens the subject for debate all the fear people have towards this subject will be gone and things become more transparent. No one fears transparency; instead people fear the lack of it. So I believe that such an opening is really helpful and has a very favorable effect in this discussion.
UFO – And what to do while we do not achieve this relying only on testimonials of thousands of highly credible people who have experienced UFO phenomena?
Pereira – One must consider all different sorts of evidence surrounding UFOs. As in any police work, we have documental, testimonial, and circumstantial evidence each with their own weight. Documental evidence, for example, has its own impact as has a testimonial. Has anybody seen something in the sky? Great! But it’s even better when we have 50 people witnessing it. Especially when these people don't know one another and live in different communities. This is how testimonial evidence becomes stronger. And, at last, we have the circumstantial evidence, which is the most fragile of all. We must separate these three kinds of evidence we have today concerning Ufology. Circumstantial evidence are present in high volume, so are testimonial ones, and 90% of these have a scientific explanation while the remaining 10% do not. Regarding material evidence, we have none.
UFO – Would you call the occurrence of May 20th 1986, the so called Official UFO Night in Brazil, as a circumstantial evidence of the UFO phenomena?
Pereira – As far as I know, observations in that occasion were testimonial evidence from people who saw it.
UFO – Jet pilots who were sent by the Air Force to intercept those objects were very experienced.
Pereira – Yes, they were. That's why those are testimonial evidence, situations in which witnesses saw something and radars detected that same thing. Look, radars may present a false echo, they may be affected by many different factors, but when we have more than one radar spotting the same target, then we have something serious enough to be ignored [in an assured tone]. This equipment operates in different frequencies.
UFO – One of the jet planes intercepting the objects was even surrounded by many of them who came relatively close...
Pereira – Here we have the sum of different facts. Someone has seen something and radar spotted it. Such equipment has nothing to do with human eyes, it's an electronic device. Another pair of eyes also saw that same thing [another pilot] and so on. Then you start to give credits to the occurrence and the situation becomes more concrete. OK, but where is the object? Was it captured? Here is where the material evidence thing comes in, and we don't have it.
UFO – Brigadier, when the Brazilian Committee of Ufologists (CBU) visited Comdabra on May 20th 2005, we were received by Brigadier Atheneu Azambuja, who showed us three folders of UFO occurrences from that body's archives. Aren't these evidence that we have been visited by objects crewed and controlled by intelligent non terrestrial beings?
Pereira – Well, those folders are not only at Comdabra, they are spread through other bodies worldwide. They prove that unexplained phenomena occurring lead us to believe in the presence of such being and alien objects on planet Earth. That's it. They are uncommon to our planet. Now, telling what are those beings and objects is a very risky thing since we have no knowledge enough for that [in a cautious tone]. So, I believe Ufology has much more work ahead [in order to identify the phenomenon] and even needs to add some other subjects to its efforts.
UFO – At the time of that visit to Comdabra we said that we would like to conduct a joint study with the Air Force by forming a mixed team of civilian ufologists and military. What do you think about this?
Pereira – Yes, but I should say that such a team would need more people. Besides ufologists I believe that it's necessary to have scientists, astronomers, physicists, etc, because such knowledge must be jointly addressed by more people.
UFO – Do you personally believe that civilizations from other planets might be visiting us?
Pereira – Well, my thought on this is that we, humans, left ground for the first time in an airplane nearly 100 years ago and within only one century could reach the Moon. In astronomic means we could say that a hundred years are nothing, not even dust. Then, if in one century and with our limited capacity we could achieve this... Now, think: where will we reach a hundred or a thousand years from now?
UFO – We know that the Brazilian Air Force officially investigates the UFO phenomenon since 1969, when Brigadier Jose Vaz da Silva established the System for Investigation of Unidentified Flying Objects (SIOANI) at the Brazilian IV Regional Air Command (COMAR 4). But why was that research apparently closed in that same year without any further progress?
Pereira – Look, that's a very interesting question. I wasn't around that time and have not researched those facts. I've never had the idea of investigating the reasons why that work was ended, but I suspect Brigadier Vaz da Silva hasn't had any more conditions to go further. He tells a different story [from many other military]. He was always an avant-garde man, always ahead of this time.
UFO – Do you believe in a superior interference in the establishment of SIOANI or was it an exclusive initiative of Brigadier Vaz da Silva?
Pereira – I'm almost sure there was a superior order. Certainly a superior instance to Brigadier Vaz da Silva worked with it by supporting the project, assisting and implementing SIOANI. A commander can't do anything by himself. He must have a superior instance behind his actions.
UFO – The two leaked SIOANI bulletins brought descriptions of cases researched by the body, including UFO landings and their crew. These are being investigated and kept in secret by the military. This is the kind of documents ufologists want to see disclosed. Do you believe they can be publicly revealed?
Pereira – In my opinion there is no reason to keep such material in secret. None. I understand that the disclosure won't affect any of the four classical criteria military always have in mind when dealing with national secrets. And these are represented by the following questions: first, will the disclosure take the country into a war? Second, will it cause panic in the population? Third, is it a threat to the national security, be it with a South-American country or any other? And fourth, will the disclosure of this material affect the privacy of people possibly mentioned on it? This is what we must have in mind. If none of these matters are affected – which is actually the case –, then it must be disclosed!
UFO – Are you for the disclosure of UFO documents prepared by the military and kept in secret to date?
Pereira – Absolutely. Unless the disclosure affects any of the four items I've just mentioned. In that case I think the material should not be disclosed. We must respect people's privacy and also the national security as we have to preserve peace and order. Also, we shouldn't start a war or create indisposition with other countries. Anyway, we shouldn’t reveal our plans to the enemy. Besides those factors, it's time for transparency and for clearing this subject.
UFO – Do you think this also applies to documents from Operação Prato [Operation Saucer], carried out by the Air Force of State of Para in 1977?
Pereira – Sure! No doubt about that! To all and every operation!
UFO – Have you received specific information on that operation?
Pereira – At the moment it was carried out, no. I knew of the results only after that. But I knew Hollanda [Colonel Uyrangê Hollanda, commander of that military mission]. He worked for the Air Force Intelligence, same as I did, so we were always passing by one another.
UFO – I interviewed Hollanda in 1997. I had just given an interview to Fantástico [Fantastic], talking about the documents Brazilian Air Force holds and he saw me at the show and called me the next morning saying: “Look, Gevaerd, I follow your work and I know you are doing the right thing. I want to say that now I'm retired and have no more obligations with my uniform. So, if you want to come to Rio to interview me, I'll have much to say”. I went to Rio immediately and together with Marco Antonio Petit we had a historical interview with him. Have you read it?
Pereira – Yes, of course. I have a copy with me and have also found it in several websites. It's a long interview and I read it carefully. Some time ago, a colleague sent me a copy and I replied: “Man, do you really think I don't have it? I got a copy long ago”.
UFO – Really? Then I conclude that high rank officials as you may have had become aware of Hollanda's statements.
Pereira – Yes, certainly. It's a long and much known interview. But Hollanda was a very disturbed man, with a very introspective personality. And as a result he took his own life…
UFO – Do you believe his personal problems somehow influenced the statements he made to Brazilian UFO Magazine concerning Operação Prato [Operation Saucer]?
Pereira – Not the contents, but maybe the way he did it. Hollanda was a serious man and wouldn't be able to change the contents, especially regarding such an important matter.
UFO – People say that he loved to be called to lead that operation because all he wanted was to go to the jungle. He headed the military mission and had a close encounter with an ET, so he told us at the interview. Did you know this?
Pereira – I knew that, he reported it, but I have never discussed this issue with him. Hollanda also called me shortly after, but I was in another operation [not a ufological one].
UFO – He told us that he was together with a subordinate at Rio Guajará-Mirim heading towards the camp when a cylindrical aircraft with 100m in length nearly landed on the other margin. From the top, a door was opened and an ET came from it floating to the place where they were. According to Hollanda this was the most exciting moment in the operation. Have you ever discussed that with him?
Pereira – No, unfortunately I didn't have details before. But maybe that's why he had put all of his efforts and dedication in Operação Prato [Operation Saucer], which was where he found a sense for his life. If he couldn't succeed as an aviator and if he rejected the idea of being an intending officer, then the intelligence suited him well. Working for the intelligence for me is an agreeable experience, at least partially. Things were tough those times. I worked a lot with pure military intelligence, with strategy. But I was never much concerned with communists for example [the first official justification for Operação Prato [Operation Saucer] was that it was conceived in order to identify communists possibly hidden in the Amazon jungle].
UFO – Hollanda suspected that the contact he had with an ET at the margin of Rio Guajará-Mirim during December 1977 was the turning point for the termination of Operação Prato [Operation Saucer]. He said he was ordered to terminate the operation after reporting it to his superior, Brigadier Protásio Lopes de Oliveira, then commander of the Brazilian I Regional Air Command (COMAR 1). Did you know that?
Pereira – Partly. I didn't have that detail.
UFO – Many people do not believe he killed himself. He would have been murdered instead for having supposedly talked too much. This is not true. However, if our issue where the first part of the interview – UFO 054, October 1997 – was earlier released and if he had seen the respect Equipe UFO [Brazilian UFO Magazine Team]rendered him then maybe by feeling honored and seeing the huge contribution he gave to Brazilian Ufology he would not have taken his own life...
Pereira – Yes, maybe. But he had a very lonely life and that is something very sad. That's why in military life the sector which mostly unites people is the intelligence. Those who lived this experience suffer when they leave the circle. It's somewhat like in a combat situation: when bullets are crossing by no one thinks about the homeland. Everybody is thinking about their own lives and the lives of those around them, the ones who can save their lives. When Hollanda retired he was completely isolated from everyone and everything. This can really affect someone.
UFO – Hollanda was very close to the UFO phenomenon, especially from the middle to the end of Operação Prato [Operation Saucer], until he had that contact with an ET and the mission was terminated. But this did not prevent him from his own investigations which he carried out during his spare time. He even had other contacts until the phenomena around him suddenly stopped. This seems to have affected him a lot. Did you know that?
Pereira – No, I didn't. But once I was talking about Hollanda to a psychologist and she told me he presented the profile of someone who had faced something very serious in some moment of life. An event so serious that could isolate him, let's say, from his fellows [in a regretting tone].
UFO – Do you consider that the experience he had with Operação Prato [Operation Saucer] could have contributed to his state of mind?
Pereira – Yes, no doubt about that, it was a catalysis factor, a very strong experience.
UFO – During that time, were the results Operação Prato [Operation Saucer] commented on in military circles?
Pereira – Yes. Not with great emphasis, but everybody knew what was happening.
UFO – And how about the contact Hollanda had with an ET, in December 1977. Was this also known to military?
Pereira – Only a few people knew about that. I knew about it much later, not at the moment that occurred. Brigadier Protásio was the one who talked to me about that fact. At the time it occurred I was already more senior than Hollanda in the Air Force and I only knew about that specific episode, the contact itself, when I was to be promoted a Brigadier. But, regarding Operação Prato [Operation Saucer], I was made aware as soon as I started working in the intelligence, when I was still a Colonel. I was a planning director at the Air Force and all files were at my disposal.
UFO – Have you had access to the documents prepared during Operação Prato [Operation Saucer]?
Pereira – Yes, all of them. But this happened when I was the planning director for the Air Force, in the early 90s.
UFO – And where were those files? Brasilia?
Pereira – Yes, Brasilia. Those files were all collected and some were sent to the SNI [Brazilian National Information Service, a body that originated the Brazilian Intelligence Agency (ABIN)]. But only part of them. I would see them again only several years later when I was in a different position at the Air Force.
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